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Old Jan 11, 08, 10:23 PM   #41
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Re: HEy, TEACHER!

omg thats not the point... its a new idea here... and anne rice got it somewhere else too probably...
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Well, God is the overlord right? The guy with all of the power? I have asked elders in my chruch, as long as referred to many outsides written sources, and all if not most have agreed that Lucifer was essentialy God's little prodige. Another very common if not universal "fact" is that God banished Lucifer for beginning a revolt. He along with a lot of other angels were banished to earth. Everywhere I have read and heard say that God banished Lucifer BEFORE he ever created people. Who's to say he didn't just take the credit from Lucifer? Who's to say that God himself isn't the deceiver?


Point is, Lucifer had the power as well. He had the intelligentce, the wisdom, and anything else he needed to do it. In esscence he was god, only barely less powerful.
Very interesting theory Alex.
I have heard similar to this, but you sum it up in a more simple way.
Who's not to say that's possible. The idea that most people could be worshipping the wrong figure is very intriguing, and questionable.

I respect that you added this is your opinion and what you have gathered to believe, and such.
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omg thats not the point... its a new idea here... and anne rice got it somewhere else too probably...
She probably did, but that's not the point. The point is, why's it matter that it's the first time the idea's been mentioned here? I mean, no offense to the dude who posted it but why's he being commended for proposing it when others have done it already outside of MG?
My point is, you were implying that he came up with it as a novelty:
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If I wasn't christian I would have no problem subscibing to your theory. intresting in deed. I look not to disprove it I just look at it and admire the work of young minds....
and all I was saying is that it's been done already. Like, OMG!
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man that sounds sooo good alex
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My point is, you were implying that he came up with it as a novelty:
If that was how it sounded than I apologize.
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I wasn't talking to you, but anyways no need for anyone to apologize..
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Well I do disagree completely with that theory.
This will be shocking to some, but listen anyway. During the time of Satan's reign over the Earth, God created a human race that was much more powerful than our own of today. The demons we have today is that race of humans from millions of years, possibly, before us. that 1/3 of the Heavenly host mentioned in the bible throwing their lots in with Satan, was not angels but this high form of humans. Now to go deeper, it is quite possible God may have allowed Satan to create more of the creation God already set in place. Lucifer was pure and holy during this time, so you get the idea. It still remains, it was and is God's creation first.
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Well I do disagree completely with that theory.
This will be shocking to some, but listen anyway. During the time of Satan's reign over the Earth, God created a human race that was much more powerful than our own of today. The demons we have today is that race of humans from millions of years, possibly, before us. that 1/3 of the Heavenly host mentioned in the bible throwing their lots in with Satan, was not angels but this high form of humans. Now to go deeper, it is quite possible God may have allowed Satan to create more of the creation God already set in place. Lucifer was pure and holy during this time, so you get the idea. It still remains, it was and is God's creation first.
Please tell me where you get these theories, because I can't remember ever seeing that in the Bible. If I appear to be wrong then please point me in the right direction.
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Through evangelist Jimmy Swaggart. He is about the only right preacher out there. The most hated preachers are the ones that preach what is right.
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Ooooh that sounds pretty interesting

is there any site i can go to in order to check out anything else that guy might have to say about that stuff?
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Through evangelist Jimmy Swaggart. He is about the only right preacher out there. The most hated preachers are the ones that preach what is right.


They are "hated" because of their hypocrisy. The fact that these folks bilk the masses and capitalize on the sick, poor, weak, mentally challenged..this does not bother you?
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Please tell me where you get these theories, because I can't remember ever seeing that in the Bible. If I appear to be wrong then please point me in the right direction.
up ditto....


and agree with saphire too.

Phatty seriously whats going here... how can you call any preacher a right preacher. They will any really truley christian preacher will tell you they are no more right than any person in thier church, and that they are sinners like the rest of us. and yes anyone have a website for this Jimmy guy I will take a look at him and see what I think...
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I've googled his name in the interest in finding out what this man preaches, and to my amazement I found that this minister admitted unlawful sexual conduct with several prostitutes. Yes I know it is on Wikipedia, but this is also backed up on BBC News.

Personally, I'd takeet anything this guy says with a pinch of salt as he appears to be over enthusiastic, Armageddon preaching evangelist.
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Hitler must have been the ****ing second comming then.
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Well I do disagree completely with that theory.
This will be shocking to some, but listen anyway. During the time of Satan's reign over the Earth, God created a human race that was much more powerful than our own of today. The demons we have today is that race of humans from millions of years, possibly, before us. that 1/3 of the Heavenly host mentioned in the bible throwing their lots in with Satan, was not angels but this high form of humans. Now to go deeper, it is quite possible God may have allowed Satan to create more of the creation God already set in place. Lucifer was pure and holy during this time, so you get the idea. It still remains, it was and is God's creation first.
Lawks a lummie.
but, I thought carbon dating was worng and evil and protrayed the Earth to be older than its few thousand years?
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carbon dating isnt all that bad its just not a valid dating procedure and many admit that even those that use it. There are many website showing its inablity to date over 5k years and many other stating its ablity.

To carbon date something you have to know how many carbons were in it when it died, a dinosaur for instance died before we knew how to measure the carbon so thus you can never actually carbon date it
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