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Old Jan 10, 08, 01:30 PM   #21
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Re: I freaking hate missinformed people

I just can't understand why it's reported so much here in the UK.

I doubt many people in the UK know the political differences between Hilary, Obama and the other guy. But then again I suppose whoever comes to power after Bush, may affect our "Special Relationship with America"

Personally, I couldn't see America being bothered about who was going to succeed Tony Blair for the PM role.
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Old Jan 10, 08, 03:01 PM   #22
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I dont really hate hillary. Def not because she a girl so no one say that. I don't like democratic policies. She is pro abortion and her policies go against many things I don't like. Also as a personal aside, she stood by her cheating lieing husband while he cheated and lied to her so that she could attain public view and be able to move her carreer. If shehad divorced him (as she had a right to do) then she would have fallen from the lime light for a while. I don't want a President who will stand by while people lie cheat and steal from them. (that doesn't mean we havent had other or that any will not do it, I just feel that there are better canidates.) I feel Obama would be the better of the two democratics. Even a democrat who is pro life has to bend to the will of his (or hers) party, so in reality I can not vote democratic ussually. It comes to that I think hilary is good where she is at but is not strong enough to lead this great country.

as an aside, many countries in the world look for weakness in America, even if what they see as a weaknes isn't really one, and want to exploit that or stop giving support if they see one. Many countires in the world do feel that woman is weak. period.( i do not agree I have a wife) If, at this point is history, we have woman president many countries will look to America as a weak country. We will need an extraordinary woman to be that and Hilary is not extraordinary. she is plain old ordinary.
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I dont really hate hillary. Def not because she a girl so no one say that. I don't like democratic policies. She is pro abortion and her policies go against many things I don't like. Also as a personal aside, she stood by her cheating lieing husband while he cheated and lied to her so that she could attain public view and be able to move her carreer. If shehad divorced him (as she had a right to do) then she would have fallen from the lime light for a while. I don't want a President who will stand by while people lie cheat and steal from them. (that doesn't mean we havent had other or that any will not do it, I just feel that there are better canidates.)
You see standing by Bill is one of the reasons I respect Hillary so much. She could have just given up and left him but she didn't, she stayed with him because she knew he still loved her and that she still loved him. It wasn't the first time he cheated but she forgave him anyhow and I think that shows huge strength of character. I think the idea that she did it to stay in the limelight is just stupid. People aren't perfect and they **** up, she knew Bill was more ****ed up than most and forgave him because she knew that he still loved him. Or at least that's the impression I got from Bill's autobiography.

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I feel Obama would be the better of the two democratics. Even a democrat who is pro life has to bend to the will of his (or hers) party, so in reality I can not vote democratic ussually. It comes to that I think hilary is good where she is at but is not strong enough to lead this great country.
Dude, THREE democratic candidates.
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Old Jan 10, 08, 06:21 PM   #24
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if I were able to vote I'd vote for him, just because he's black.
Though to be honest I'd NOT have gotten rid of Bill Clinton.
Clinton was a great president for many reasons, aside from people bashing the hell out of him over the Monica L. relationship.

Anyways, that just seems like a crock of racist bullsh*t that does not make me question who he is or his beliefs in the least.
Obama has come a long way, and is incredibly hard working.
His backround or religion matter not to me as he is an incredibly intelligent man, with great intentions.
Compared to the conservative republican, christian, jackass, that is the better president for our country because of his religious faith, and skin color. Besides the fact that his IQ is less than that of a nine year old, he is the perfect politically correct, religious man for the job, says the idiots who supposedly sent this to you through email.

Bah, I'm done, "fools" I say!
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Re: I freaking hate missinformed people

only really two democratic canadates are really pulling numbers, or at least media attention... Admitadally I don't pay much attention to democratic party affairs, who is the other runner, maybe I have heard them, and do you know any of the policies and how they differ from obama and hilary.
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only really two democratic canadates are really pulling numbers, or at least media attention... Admitadally I don't pay much attention to democratic party affairs, who is the other runner, maybe I have heard them, and do you know any of the policies and how they differ from obama and hilary.
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Personally I like his policies (what little he has anyway) but I'm more of an Edwards fan.
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He's got 2nd place in Iowa and was still fairly high (18%) in New Hampshire so he's not completely out of it. I don't expect him to win but at least count him damn it.

His health care plan is more ambitious, he supports tougher campaign financing laws, supports wider college access initiatives, he is more environmentally friendly and he was the only reason anyone voted for Kerry (he was the VP candidate),
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Kerry was a good runner, im looking into edwards now, seems I have heard his campaigns, I live in Ne right next door to oh so important in pres campaigns nothing IA. seriously its a useless place no joke.
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Edwards is going to win. Don't cal me racist or sexist but here is why. He's running against a woman and a black guy. America is definitely not ready for a black president or a woman president.
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Edwards is going to win. Don't cal me racist or sexist but here is why. He's running against a woman and a black guy. America is definitely not ready for a black president or a woman president.

is actually probably very true, and sadly many people will vote just cause obama is black and many will vote just cause hilary is female, and many more will vote cause edwards is neither and is indeed white, and well this could very well be the win for edwards, America just isn't quite ready as you stated.
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Sadly enough I half agree with that. Most people of our country are not ready for a black or female president.
I think they have a great chance this election, and its going to be very close, but people aren't ready.

I'm not trying to be a negative pr*ck, or racist, but if Obama wins this election, I can see him getting assassinated. By some racist, ignorant, centered twit.
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Sadly enough I half agree with that. Most people of our country are not ready for a black or female president.
I think they have a great chance this election, and its going to be very close, but people aren't ready.

I'm not trying to be a negative pr*ck, or racist, but if Obama wins this election, I can see him getting assassinated. By some racist, ignorant, centered twit.

same for hilary but we will see, plus they are just the democratic canadates
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