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Old Oct 27, 07, 10:36 AM   #41
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Re: HEY, PHATBOWSER!

Phatty has yet to embrace the "Christian edict" of .."Judge not lest ye be judged". Also.."Vengence is mine said the Lord".

It is not up to a mortal being to judge and or decide what is Godly living or an abomination. A true Christian leaves that to God.
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Old Oct 27, 07, 11:24 AM   #42
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Phatty has yet to embrace the "Christian edict" of .."Judge not lest ye be judged". Also.."Vengence is mine said the Lord".

It is not up to a mortal being to judge and or decide what is Godly living or an abomination. A true Christian leaves that to God.
I couldn't put it better myself. Hence the reason I don't go peaching or converting. At the end of the day, everyone believes whatever they want, and its difficult to change that.

I think the film Dogma said it the best :

"It doesn't matter what you have faith in, just so long as you have faith"

Also, regardless of what the Old Testament says I feel that God's attitude does change with the times and that Homosexuals will be forgiven or accepted in the kingdom of heaven.
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Old Oct 27, 07, 11:25 AM   #43
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It's never said specifically that you go to hell ipso facto from them and besides that's all very Old Testament.

In the NT Jesus says the two most important commandments are love god and love your neighbor and he really doesn't elaborate on the others.
Yet the Ten Commandments are an important part of Christianity, it does not matter whether it's OT or NT.
That being said, Jesus indeed says to love your neighbours and love God and I agree, this can be interpreted into two ways, they can be guidelines, or rules. If they are rules then they will involve a punishment ( I assume that will consist of purgatory or Hell), if they are simply guidelines, then it is questionable whether or not a punishment is involved.


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But, that is what (most) Christians do.
Yes, it is and that is exactly my point...Though I fail to see yours.

Which is most likely due to not elaborating your post.
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Old Oct 27, 07, 01:41 PM   #44
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Phatty has yet to embrace the "Christian edict" of .."Judge not lest ye be judged". Also.."Vengence is mine said the Lord".

It is not up to a mortal being to judge and or decide what is Godly living or an abomination. A true Christian leaves that to God.
I could not agree more.

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Yet the Ten Commandments are an important part of Christianity, it does not matter whether it's OT or NT.
That being said, Jesus indeed says to love your neighbours and love God and I agree, this can be interpreted into two ways, they can be guidelines, or rules. If they are rules then they will involve a punishment ( I assume that will consist of purgatory or Hell), if they are simply guidelines, then it is questionable whether or not a punishment is involved.
My point was just because you do bad things you don't necessarily go to hell. Also I should point out purgatory's a catholic thing. The 10 commandments may be rules but breaking one of them doesn't necessarily mean you are going to hell do not pass go do not collect £200.
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Old Oct 29, 07, 12:47 AM   #45
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Of course you know I disagree with everything up there except the part about the Ten Commandments, (should still not be broken).
That being said, keep on trucking.
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Old Oct 29, 07, 11:51 PM   #46
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Also, regardless of what the Old Testament says I feel that God's attitude does change with the times and that Homosexuals will be forgiven or accepted in the kingdom of heaven.
What you are doing is trying to force what's been written to morph into your own ideals.
You're a product of modern times, of course you'd find the laws as they were written in the Old Testament ancient and barbaric. And so you improvise and say God must be moving along with the times like us humans have been.
Do you know how funny that is?
You're making the religion fit your own ideals.
You don't want to think that God might be just as the book says he is.
If God really did change with the times, maybe he should act as a muse for a new-age Moses, John and James and produce a new updated Bible.
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Old Oct 29, 07, 11:57 PM   #47
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Pretty good conclusion Alex.
As I say at other forums, God never changes.
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Old Oct 30, 07, 12:01 AM   #48
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Re: HEY, PHATBOWSER!

I am in total agreement with Alexandros summary.
The Bible is "modified" every now and then (new versions, etc) but that is just an attempt to do just what Alex is accusing. To attempt to fit the believers morrays and current beliefs into something that will be congueous with their current actions while still adhering to what is deemed moral, Christian, etc. It is one or the other. What is written in the Bible is written..no caveats, no amendments. It does NOT change to fit the current climate as many would like to think.
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The twits in this thread who calls themselves Satanist really make me laugh, they are in some ways more misguided and rediculous than the God Botherers. Not only do they believe in some bull**** made up fairy tale nonsense about angels and demons but they align themselves to the opposite side, just to be unique little snowflakes. Pathetic.

I equate them to the same sad little punk gits who sit around wearing black and cutting themselves because they can't get a girlfriend.

Baaaaaa!

You're all ****ing sheep, whether your a white sheep or a black sheep, you're all sheep.
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The only changes that should be made to any historic book, reprinted, is the use of modern words of today. If you change one sentence, you have changed the entire chapter, change one chapter, and you have changed the entire book.
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You want to **** us then?
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The only changes that should be made to any historic book, reprinted, is the use of modern words of today. If you change one sentence, you have changed the entire chapter, change one chapter, and you have changed the entire book.
You've contradicted yourself in the same post. Well done.
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And God said un2 Moses: "Lol, pwned!"
And Moses said: "OMG! xD"
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You've contradicted yourself in the same post. Well done.
He meant making it readable for the masses Lupus. The King James Version is what is generally accepted. The content is not altered in this case.

I HOPE that translated was the word he was going for.

I do not believe that Phattty meant converting the Bible into Whigga speak..Nor do I think he meant that F&*k, CU$t, dick, ***, bling, bff, and other forms of the pop culture venacular be incorporateed into it. (I could be wrong here though)

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And Eve said 2 Adam, "Eat teh apple." And at 1st, he was like "Noes!" but then he was like NOM NOM NOM NOM.
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And Eve said 2 Adam, "Eat teh apple." And at 1st, he was like "Noes!" but then he was like NOM NOM NOM NOM.
Another example of interpretation of the Bible is Alexandros quite literal translation. It is not often one sees an attempt at adding sound effects.
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Old Oct 30, 07, 12:43 AM   #57
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You got it right Sapph.
Example: Thee=You
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He meant making it readable for the masses Lupus. The King James Version is what is generally accepted. The content is not altered in this case.

I HOPE that translated was the word he was going for.

I do not believe that Phattty meant converting the Bible into Whigga speak..Nor do I think he meant that F&*k, CU, dick, ***, bling, bff, and other forms of the pop culture venacular be incorporateed into it. (I could be wrong here though)
Blah blah blah. That's not my point and you know it.
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