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Old Oct 26, 07, 02:29 PM   #21
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However, there is nothing in the Bible that states you will burn in Hell for not believing in God. Saying that is like returning to the Medieval era and making crusades against the 'heathens'.
There is nothing stating that in it that you go to hell if you are a murderer either. There is no thing in the Bible which gives you an instant one way pass to hell really. Being protestant and what not though I kinda think that it's not so much the acts that are important as what's on the inside that counts. Then again I'm not too sure about the whole hell thing anyway and definately don't agree that the devil exists a literal being, nor that the adam and eve story is literal (metaphor seems to be lost on a lot of people).
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Old Oct 26, 07, 02:46 PM   #22
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(metaphor seems to be lost on a lot of people).
So true, every atheist takes the Bible too literally and uses that in 99% of their arguments.

Personally, I think times have changed and things need to be taken as advice rather than prophecy.

But I'm sure someone has something to counter that.
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There is nothing stating that in it that you go to hell if you are a murderer either. There is no thing in the Bible which gives you an instant one way pass to hell really. Being protestant and what not though I kinda think that it's not so much the acts that are important as what's on the inside that counts. Then again I'm not too sure about the whole hell thing anyway and definately don't agree that the devil exists a literal being, nor that the adam and eve story is literal (metaphor seems to be lost on a lot of people).
Well, if you follow the Ten Commandments which states "Thou shalt not kill." It is to be assumed you will be punished for breaking it. Isn't that exactly what the purpose of the Ten Commandments were?
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So, what 'branch' of Satanism to you believe in? My belief are basically those of a LaVeyan Satanist.
Im not quite sure what to call it. But i do worship Satan, to some degree.
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Old Oct 26, 07, 06:22 PM   #25
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Well, if you follow the Ten Commandments which states "Thou shalt not kill." It is to be assumed you will be punished for breaking it. Isn't that exactly what the purpose of the Ten Commandments were?
It's never said specifically that you go to hell ipso facto from them and besides that's all very Old Testament.

In the NT Jesus says the two most important commandments are love god and love your neighbor and he really doesn't elaborate on the others.
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He did it because God wanted to have his creations to be able to choose by themselves. He didn't want them to be simple puppets, controlled by him, to only do what he wants them to do.
But, that is what (most) Christians do.
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It's not MUCh of a choice when it comes down to His way or Hell, is it?
If the Bible is a work of fiction (as you previously have stated)...then His Way would mean nothing as would the threat of hell...

Any true Christian knows that it is not an either or proposition. God loves and forgives all.......(In my Christian World and teachings)
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Ah, 'tis amazing what the human mind can conjure up. God bless human imagination!
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^Whatever gets you through the day...............
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Honestly, I'd put more faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster (by His Noodly Appendage) than in the oft-purported version of God we get fed.

Now the God in the Story of Coheed and Cambria... that's my sort of God.
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I thought that your worshipped at the shrine of technology Lupus?
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I worship at no shrine, silly girl.

not yet.
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About the Ten Commandments, Jesus did not elaborate on those because they speak for themselves. It is quite obvious that God wrote them on the stone tablets, and they are not to be broken.
And too the newbies, I am this Phatbowser that Lupus speaks of. Mind he has already lied about my thoughts on gays. I hate what they do and need to discover salvation and repent of their sin. The gay lifestyle is an abomination to God.
There is a Heaven and hell without a doubt. And if you do not repent of sin, there will be literal hell to pay. Just give it a couple more years and you will se a false antichrist come on this Earth, if you don't get saved before 7 years after he comes, you don't get another chance. I am not going to be kind, this is a matter of peace, or torture I am talking about.
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There's no god, there's no satan. Things go wrong because we screw up. There's nobody watching us from heaven or hell. God is nothing more than a myth.

If you lose your job. God is not going to find you a new one or make appear food in your table. It is up to us to go out there and do something about it, if we expected god to solve everything for us who knows where we would be right now.
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Easy to combat that.
There is a God, there is a satan. Things go wrong because because we screw up. God watches us from everywhere. God is God.
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Hah. We obviously have different opinions. The way i see it, even satan makes more sense than god. I mean, people need someone to blame when things go wrong and for all the bad stuff that happens in the world. Even when we're the ones who manipulate our destiny with every action we make.
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About the Ten Commandments, Jesus did not elaborate on those because they speak for themselves. It is quite obvious that God wrote them on the stone tablets, and they are not to be broken.
And too the newbies, I am this Phatbowser that Lupus speaks of. Mind he has already lied about my thoughts on gays. I hate what they do and need to discover salvation and repent of their sin. The gay lifestyle is an abomination to God.
There is a Heaven and hell without a doubt. And if you do not repent of sin, there will be literal hell to pay. Just give it a couple more years and you will se a false antichrist come on this Earth, if you don't get saved before 7 years after he comes, you don't get another chance. I am not going to be kind, this is a matter of peace, or torture I am talking about.


If a anti-christ ever comes to the earth, the worst he will do is say "Hey, don't do what God tells you to. Think for yourselves and be independent" Although, that's what God fears most.
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Old Oct 27, 07, 03:56 AM   #38
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About the Ten Commandments, Jesus did not elaborate on those because they speak for themselves. It is quite obvious that God wrote them on the stone tablets, and they are not to be broken.
Again with the missing of the metaphor... Stone tablets just appeared magically from the sky? Yeh umm.. sure...

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Just give it a couple more years and you will se a false antichrist come on this Earth, if you don't get saved before 7 years after he comes, you don't get another chance.
Oh I didn't realize you were one of those nuts. I have no idea why you think the end of the world is imminent but, sure, have fun with that.
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