Lupus

It's incredible how they imitate what we do, whilst they're in the jungle, and have never toured any major human cities on a package holiday.
Maybe they imitated our invention of electricity, transmitters, televisions, cameras etc, and they secretly spy on us for their rainforest version of Big Brother.

You know, freerunners can climb with ease, and not just trees. Strategically shaved apes perchance?

The Dudemeister

Phatty, before you start talking out of your ass in the future, trying either supressing the urge for stupid, or find an intelligent way to say something.

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Deadpool

I am talking about the apes stuck in a zoo. Not the ones in the wild. Even then, there are explorers in the jungle around the apes all the time. The friendly ones that is.
Sorry but there is not one percent of evolution that holds any truth to me. It would have been just as easy to have evolved from a chicken if it were true. So tell me, if we evolved from apes, what did they evolve from? What do those evolve from and so on. I still wish you could bring the proof of why all cavemen don't exist now, and why the ape does. Didn't cavemen evolve from apes? And then we evolved from that? That is why I laugh at the theory, you can't prove that easy question. Apes should be gone and cavemen still alive. It is all a bunch of **** and you know it.

The Dudemeister

well that would make sense phatty. I can see where you are coming from, evolved species replace the inferior ones, yeah. There is where I desagree with Darmwin. But you can't possibly say that cavemen should still be here, are you kidding? There is no way that you can not say that we didb't evolve from cavemen. Eveidence along with intelligence shows that it is obvious we have evolved from Cavemen. I will bet that Darwin just threw in the monkey thing because he was stuck and couldn't think of what humans evolved from. But the fact stands that we evolved from cavemen, hence OUR existendce and THEIR exstinction. However hard ABC tried to bring them back with that god awful sitcom.

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NinPlayBox

this just doesn't make sense anymore...

I thought evolution was talked about and pasted up...

Maybe cavemen never existed....

go!

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Ice Pray

Cavemen existed...

end!

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NinPlayBox

waht about cavewoman.....

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Chrales Darwin- “ to suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.

Tim

The apes that we evolved from evolved from another ape like species and them before them another ape like species.

Because the apes we have now are adapted to their enviroment and learn to live in it. If by Cavemen you mean Homo Erectus and the early precursour species, they died out because they were no longer as suitable for the envirmonent as homo sapiens and we stole all their food. Survival of the fittest, it's not called that for no reason...

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SAPPHIRERUBY

^I would think he would reject Darwin carte blanche as well.

NinPlayBox

Darwin was way wrong.. he studied and anomaly of nature (the entire island chain) and he admited he believed in God. as did einstein. Darwin has long since been proven, a male chauvanist, a racist and pretty much wrong on most theories. But he added some good contribututions to the world of knoledge.

And if you want to say apes led to caveman caveman to man, what was before apes going way back there havent just always been apes evolutions says everything came from one place and spread out...it just doesn't jive with common sense. and what was between ape and caveman, Those that say God put everything in place at least regonize that he may have made a million little creatures and intended for each to evolove into what they are now. I don't think so, I just plain don't agree with MACRO evolution, micro evolution is easy to see. But even evolutionist admit there is no missing link, between ape to Man to prove evolution. You need the transistion animal the thing in the middle to show eveolution. we don't have it. There have been many well documented finds that have been justly shown as not the missing link. Lucy and and the ice man and the such. At first it seems like they find it and later they learn it really isnt what they had hoped for. This falls true to biblical archeology too. sadly we may never solidly know the truth as living humans 100% one way or the other.

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Chrales Darwin- “ to suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.

Lupus

Honestly, I wish I could say I stopped reading here. Alas...
Not that we've conclusively found. Doesn't mean to say it doesn't exist.
And the problem is, once it's found, then the transitional fossil between THOSE two is demanded, and so on and so on. Turtles all the way down.
Trial and error; that's how science, by and large, works.

The Dudemeister

^^^Very true Lupus. I concur. Also, I have Faith (hahaha) that the missing link will be found and conclusively shown that it is indeed the missing link. BUT, as pointed out by Sir Loop, There will always be the naysayers who want you to prove the relationship between our missing like and what it evovled from. *sigh*

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Tim

Neither of these two things makes a jot of difference about how accurate evolutionary theory is. Newton was a raving nutter who believed that pissing on stuff could make gold, doesn't mean that he wasn't right about his laws of motion.

I've already said, it was something Ape like but a little less like what we know them today and more like the early beasts.

Just because we haven't found it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. When the atom was first envisioned as a theory in (around 600BC India) you couldn't actually prove it is existed but it made logical sense. Even if the missing link is never found it doesn't mean evolution isn't true, it just means that the link never left behind any evidence.

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NinPlayBox

and again i was only playing the naysayer in this point, i care not one way or the other if it is discovered, if it ever existed I feel there is no evidence left of it. In no post did I say It was unprovable, at least in my view I am not inflexable as some others that dissagree with me, i admit there is a possibility of proving, as some of you refuse to admit that maybe there is a possibility that it is false all together. Open minded not so open minded.

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Chrales Darwin- “ to suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.

Lupus

Unlike faith systems however, there really isn't. Not unless we go down the route of evolutionary intervention by a higher power, and in this case that's more likely to be aliens.

If evolution is a fact (and there's really no evidence that it isn't) then your so-called missing link existed. We've just not found it.

Only recently was a dinosaur fossil uncovered that had proof of both scales and feathers. Would you accept that as a transitional fossil between dinosaurs and modern birds? Or do you want another, less-saurian and more-avian fossil to place between the two first? And what then?

We're just going in circles.

On a tangent, scientists have discovered that black holes produce antimatter. A few years ago they apparently did not know this... so at that time were the black holes NOT producing antimatter, or did we just not find out about it?
Hm?

Deadpool

The thing is for me, I will continue to be a naysayer. You keep asking me for hard evidence and proof, and I am going to continue asking for the same. You have yet to provide any info that convinces me whatsoever. Evolution is nothing more than an ignorant man thinking up how he came into this world so he can deny the existence of God just so he can live his life as he pleases.

NinPlayBox

Oh my theres plenty of evidence just as convinceing as the "evidence" for evolution that it doesn't exist. both side have good arguments, but both clearly lack solid facts its a faith choice to go one way or they other. Folssils are way over thought about. a feathre can lay against a reptile when it dies and boom you have a rock with both imprints. My favorite one is we know how dinosaurs "saw" thingsn like the popular surmise (from jurrasic park movie) that the t-rex could not see you standing still, much like deer, um you would have to have an actuall t-rex to know that you can't even begin to assume how something saw with it s eyes by looking at fossils, more inportantly say fossils are not near as old as they "say " they are. Carbon dating is lacking to say the least. what if some nut proves the "new earth" theaory, then nothing is older than say 6k years, and that blows evolution out completely. If you believe in god thne its really no problem to believe he just made everything. its simple once you have faith in God. Everywhere I look evolution is a THEORY not accepted science and barely tried at anymore. No one really cares anymore about proving it because it has cost so much to try and fail everytime. When there are more important things to scientist. and I have seen you , sir lupus, argue the very fact that if it wsn't there before we knew about it it very well may not have existed. I think you were the one who said its very possible we are all figments of the one true human beings imagination and only exist when he thinks of us. So your anti matter could very well only exist because we looked for it lol. just ...well... being you for once. hehehehe

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